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Ray Stevens poetry = lyrics
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Will Dockery
2012-11-14 19:01:29 UTC
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"Hieronymous707" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:f01d9b97-07e9-42f1-8000-***@googlegroups.com...
I'm not arguing with you and I'm not asking you for references on "What is
poetry". All day long I've only been asking you one thing, and that is for
you to simply explain what you meant by your poetry reference with respect
and deference to Ray Stevens who specifically considers himself, his work
and effort to be lyric and song writing rather than poetry.

The simple answer is that poetry and lyrics have been the same, connected,
from the dawn of time, from the dawn of the Muses.

Don't take my word for it, here's how the poetry legend, the late great
Music has /everything/ to do with poetry, as has from day one.
Euterpe alone of the Muses holds a musical instrument.
It is the lyre, not the garage band, harp, zither, guitar, or even
the single-stringed /samisen/; it is played one note at a time on
open strings in the same manner that harmonics are touched from the
violin or guitar.
The result was lyric /poetry/...

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Will Dockery
2012-11-18 22:01:11 UTC
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"Hieronymous707" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:d209e355-6b53-4aaf-897a-***@googlegroups.com...
Saying someone has some sort of split personality may be your uneducated
opinion

I was just making an observation, no armchair psychiatry intended.

Hey, back on topic of "Song Lyrics as Poetry", though, the new Rolling
Stones single is getting some good reviews as a written work:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2012/10/listening-to-the-new-rolling-stones-song.html

The video the band has released is a lyric video, which means that you can
read along, children's-show-style. The song starts with a scene inspired by
Mick Jagger's (hundred and fifteenth?) dream: "I had a dream last night that
I was piloting a plane / And all the passengers were drunk and insane / I
crash-landed in a Louisiana swamp / Shot up a horde of zombies but I come
out on top." Jagger goes on to speculate as to the origins of this
nightmare: "What's it all about? / I guess it just reflects my mood /
Sitting in the dirt / Feeling kind of hurt / When all I hear is doom and
gloom." The way he phrases "mood" should be studied by all singers from here
on out.

As the song proceeds, the doom and gloom shifts slightly from romantic
frustration to something broader and even political. The lyrics worry over
economic inequality, take a crack at Iraq ("Lost all your gold in an
overseas war / Just goes to show you don't get what you pay for") and even
mention fracking (it's not an ideal word for a rock song, frankly, but
sounds enough like a profanity that it passes by without too much trouble).
In the end, the only solution is love, or lust, or whatever "Come on, baby,
won't you dance with me" implies.


Read more:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2012/10/listening-to-the-new-rolling-stones-song.html#ixzz2Cc8iRw1F
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